Trucker Discussion on the Updated HOS Rules

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{"replyTo":"","text":"The new HOS are a great update I hope we stick to them and don’t regress. I like stopping at gyms from time to time and I appreciate the ability make up lost time. After all health is a major concern with this job. My hope is that one day we also get at least 80hrs till the 34hr reset, this way I and many others can be home for majority of the resets and spend time with our families. I live in the Chicago area and it’s impossible to make a round trip to California on a 70hr clock. In fact I’d be short only 4-5 hrs but no more than 10 with delays. I have a 5 year old and I want to spend some quality time in person Vs FaceTime 5 hours away from home. Maybe someone will read this and try to put themselves in our shoes for a change ","replyToPid":0}

617569

{"replyTo":"","text":"helps a lot","replyToPid":0}

26979

{"replyTo":"","text":"As far as what the advocacy groups like CRASH, PATT & AHAS said; is kind of ludacris. It doesn't give us the ability to drive more or drive more while being tired and fatigued; because if need be you can now take a nap if you are tired become refreshed and finish out your 10 or 11 hours without the becoming a deficit on your available drive time.  ALSO..... the flexibility is greatly needed when you are at a shipper or receiver for 2 + hours. if you are there longer than that the now it will become a deficit to your available drive time or 14 hours at which you can't do anything else about that","replyToPid":0}

1024462

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644242 发表于 2020-10-12 15:18:00 No matter what, doing a7/3 split will not reset your 14 on ELD. You must do the 10 continuously to do that. The sleeper birth will only trigger the reset of what you had when you started that status. Therefore, it should not matter if you are in Sleeper birth or off duty. You still have to go do 10 hours straight to get a new 14 on ELD. So, ELD has not caught up with paper logs in that respect.

","text":"Just drop the eld go back the way it was so much ever ","replyToPid":402343}

714738

{"replyTo":"","text":"Eld providers should be forced to update their softwares when the law came into effect and in future as well.  Many eld providers have dropped to ball as there is no requirement for them to update it...example Keeptrucking","replyToPid":0}

26979

{"replyTo":"","text":"you're getting away with running paper because you'll say that your ELD is down..... and most likely you're not running for a company (leased on)","replyToPid":0}

601994

{"replyTo":"","text":"for all of you that are complaining about the 70 hr/ 8 day rule: first, that's not what this is about; second, it is designed that way for a reason. I agree, I have hit 66 hrs in just 5 days as a flatbed driver, so it can (very) occasionally be a hindrance. However it's set as 70 hrs to keep people (myself included) from pushing themselves 7 days a week and burning out. 70 hrs is almost perfect for 6 hrs of pushing hard, the one forced day of rest called your 34 (normal 10 hrs of sleeper plus 1 day, not hard to figure out).\nAs for the new changes:\n30 min on/off duty is awesome because I can reset my clock folding tarps and winding straps (yes, I actually log that like you are legally required to) and can push until the last couple minutes of my 8hr to hit an appointment time with no worries of not being able to get a 30 in and trying find a place out of the way of others for my 30. I also agree that being in CA and AZ a lot, it was getting very frustrating sitting trapped in at the pumps behind someone doing a 30 when there is a parking lot 100ft away with open spots, this has helped slightly with that.\nnew split logs- I can see the benefits of it for vans and refers that get stuck at for 5-6 hrs at a customer fairly often. Until its understood better, the company that I'm leased onto has it turned off to keep their company drivers from thinking they did a 10 hr and start driving when they only did an 8 hr break and end up stuck with only 3-4 hrs before they have to shut down again and missing appointments. \n14 hr rule: there was a change on the 14/11 hr rule (if you bother to read the changes like a professional instead just listening to hearsay). I would have to refresh on the details, but there is a 2hr exception once per week (or 70 hr/ 8 days maybe) specifically for when you get stuck in traffic or some other significant delay that would force you over you normal HOS clock. I don't know how this is supposed to be monitored for reasoning of use, maybe under remarks? in addition to that though, for those of you complaining about being kicked out of a customer lot after your 14 ran out, it is legal to PC to the NEAREST safe place to park (not closest in the direction you want to go or a place that has showers/food that you like). this has been a standing rule for the last year AND it doesn't count against drive time AND you still remain on your 10hr break AND there is no limit of once per week.\nLastly, the new rule on the 8hr i LOVE!!! On/off duty time no longer counts down the 8 hr, its now 8 hrs of driving before a 30 in required.\nThe only thing that I think REALLY needs to be changed is this 5mph ELD thing that kicks you into driving as soon as you hit 5mph??? sometimes you need to (or want to on a 34) move to another parking spot, like when you don't want to pay for 2 nights of reserved parking after half the lot clears out the next morning. it needs to be put at 10mph+ with continuous movement for over 3 min or based on GPS movement/ odometer over 0.3 miles within a 15 minute period.","replyToPid":0}

521212

{"replyTo":"","text":"I believe owner operater should be able to bend some of the hos rules for example its our truck. we should be able to use personal conveyance to pick up the loads, when we get at the pick up start the time. or when we leave to make a pick up for tomorrow we should be able to leave 1 day before tomorrow on personal conveyance until we get there without having to start the time. or when we are 50 miles from delivery and we slept the 10hrs we should be allowed to use personal conveyance to delivery with a minimum 2 hrs a day","replyToPid":0}

601994

{"replyTo":"","text":"for all of you that are complaining about the 70 hr/ 8 day rule: first, that's not what this is about; second, it is designed that way for a reason. I agree, I have hit 66 hrs in just 5 days as a flatbed driver, so it can (very) occasionally be a hindrance. However it's set as 70 hrs to keep people (myself included) from pushing themselves 7 days a week and burning out. 70 hrs is almost perfect for 6 days of pushing hard, then one forced day of rest called your 34 (normal 10 hrs of sleeper plus 1 day, not hard to figure out).\nAs for the new changes:\n30 min on/off duty is awesome because I can reset my clock folding tarps and winding straps (yes, I actually log that like you are legally required to) and can push until the last couple minutes of my 8hr to hit an appointment time with no worries of not being able to get a 30 in and trying find a place out of the way of others for my 30. I also agree that being in CA and AZ a lot, it was getting very frustrating sitting trapped in at the pumps behind someone doing a 30 when there is a parking lot 100ft away with open spots, this has helped slightly with that.\nnew split logs- I can see the benefits of it for vans and refers that get stuck at for 5-6 hrs at a customer fairly often. Until its understood better, the company that I'm leased onto has it turned off to keep their company drivers from thinking they did a 10 hr and start driving when they only did an 8 hr break and end up stuck with only 3-4 hrs before they have to shut down again and missing appointments. \n14 hr rule: there was a change on the 14/11 hr rule (if you bother to read the changes like a professional instead just listening to hearsay). I would have to refresh on the details, but there is a 2hr exception once per week (or 70 hr/ 8 days maybe) specifically for when you get stuck in traffic or some other significant delay that would force you over you normal HOS clock. I don't know how this is supposed to be monitored for reasoning of use, maybe under remarks? in addition to that though, for those of you complaining about being kicked out of a customer lot after your 14 ran out, it is legal to PC to the NEAREST safe place to park (not closest in the direction you want to go or a place that has showers/food that you like). this has been a standing rule for the last year AND it doesn't count against drive time AND you still remain on your 10hr break AND there is no limit of once per week.\nLastly, the new rule on the 8hr i LOVE!!! On/off duty time no longer counts down the 8 hr, its now 8 hrs of driving before a 30 in required.\nThe only thing that I think REALLY needs to be changed is this 5mph ELD thing that kicks you into driving as soon as you hit 5mph??? sometimes you need to (or want to on a 34) move to another parking spot, like when you don't want to pay for 2 nights of reserved parking after half the lot clears out the next morning. it needs to be put at 10mph+ with continuous movement for over 3 min or based on GPS movement/ odometer over 0.3 miles within a 15 minute period.","replyToPid":0}

601994

{"replyTo":"","text":"FMCSA has had to certify ELD devices for the last year or so. If they don't get it updated in a timely manner, start looking for a different ELD because their certification will probably get pulled.","replyToPid":0}