Now Officially The Mark Of The Beast (ID2020)

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{"replyToPid":0,"replyTo":"","text":"“There is nothing that will convince me otherwise.”\n\nAka, a closed-minded person, who is interested in preaching and not about knowing whether or not their beliefs are true.\n\nNo, nobody can prove the non-existence of anything to 100% certainty. Absolute certainty is unreachable as far as we can tell. Fortunately, however, we don’t need to disprove something at 100% to be justified in rejecting it.\n\nBelievers, who claim they know god is real, cannot prove their claim. Therefore, we are justified in rejecting their claim.  That’s it. It doesn’t mean they’re wrong per se. It means anyone who believes the god claim is believing something on shaky ground."}

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279311 发表于 2021-08-05 00:53:25 “There is nothing that will convince me otherwise.”\n\nAka, a closed-minded person, who is interested in preaching and not about knowing whether or not their beliefs are true.\n\nNo, nobody can prove the non-existence of anything to 100% certainty. Absolute certainty is unreachable as far as we can tell. Fortunately, however, we don’t need to disprove something at 100% to be justified in rejecting it.\n\nBelievers, who claim they know god is real, cannot prove their claim. Therefore, we are justified in rejecting their claim.  That’s it. It doesn’t mean they’re wrong per se. It means anyone who believes the god claim is believing something on shaky ground.

","text":"So then by your statement, You cannot prove the non-existance of God but you refuse to believe. So then you yourself are close-minded to any possibility of existence. You are a close-minded unbeliever.","replyToPid":438790}

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1047332 发表于 2021-08-05 00:59:07 So then by your statement, You cannot prove the non-existance of God but you refuse to believe. So then you yourself are close-minded to any possibility of existence. You are a close-minded unbeliever.

","text":"You’re not paying attention. Like I said, nobody can prove the non-existence of anything at 100% certainty. To put it another way, we always need to be open to the possibility we may be mistaken because what we currently consider to be true is not 100% certainty.\n\nAnyone who makes a claim, needs to justify it. If they cannot, then we can reject the claim, while acknowledging that they might still be right. The god question has been debated for a very long time. People have had centuries to prove the existence of their gods and the supernatural. Yet, they haven’t been able to do so. Why accept the claim of god’s existence if it cannot be proven? Again, doing so would put your beliefs on shaky ground. The moment to accept a claim is AFTER it has been proven and never before.","replyToPid":438791}

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{"replyTo":"","text":"No, you are talking in circles because you have made a statement that is contrary to your accusation of the ‘believer.’ You cannot have it both ways. You say the believer cannot prove the existence of God, but yet, ironically, you as a non-believer cannot prove that God is non-existant. Only one premise can exist: an existance, or a non-existance. To confirm one is to void the other and vice versa.\n\nNo. A person that believes in and on their ‘faith’ does not owe you any justification. You are not entitled to a piece of a believer's faith as ‘faith’ is putting trust in something that cannot be completely displayed by evidence for everyone's agreement. You may reject whatever you wish to reject. It is your prerogative to do so by the intellect of your own decisions. You are ‘free’ to choose, not only that, but you are free to choose wrongly based on illogical non-sense or even based on what is contrary to what you have wrongly chosen for yourself. You are free either way in those decisions and so is the believer. Further, it is the believers decision by ‘self evident’ reasons to accept the existance of God as true and your question as to ‘why’ is neither any of your concern or business. FAITH is acceptance of that which cannot be proven.","replyToPid":0}

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1047332 发表于 2021-08-05 03:07:36 No, you are talking in circles because you have made a statement that is contrary to your accusation of the ‘believer.’ You cannot have it both ways. You say the believer cannot prove the existence of God, but yet, ironically, you as a non-believer cannot prove that God is non-existant. Only one premise can exist: an existance, or a non-existance. To confirm one is to void the other and vice versa.\n\nNo. A person that believes in and on their ‘faith’ does not owe you any justification. You are not entitled to a piece of a believer's faith as ‘faith’ is putting trust in something that cannot be completely displayed by evidence for everyone's agreement. You may reject whatever you wish to reject. It is your prerogative to do so by the intellect of your own decisions. You are ‘free’ to choose, not only that, but you are free to choose wrongly based on illogical non-sense or even based on what is contrary to what you have wrongly chosen for yourself. You are free either way in those decisions and so is the believer. Further, it is the believers decision by ‘self evident’ reasons to accept the existance of God as true and your question as to ‘why’ is neither any of your concern or business. FAITH is acceptance of that which cannot be proven.

","text":"Let me try to explain it a different way. Two claims are being made:\n\n1) God exists.\n2) God doesn’t exist.\n\nYou would think you must select one, but you don’t have to. You can reject both claims based on lack of information. I’ll give you another example:\n\n1. Living beings (aliens) exist elsewhere in the universe.\n2. No they don’t exist. \n\nAgain, you are not forced to select one over the other. You can reject both based on lack of available information. What’s interesting is that when you reject both, you actually live your life as if #1 is false. That’s just some sort of “defect” in life. There’s not a way around it that I am aware of. For example, I am an “agnostic atheist,” but I live my life as if there were no god or gods or even aliens, although I am aware I could be mistaken. You can say my disagreement is with people who say they have definitive proof that claim #1 is real when they really don’t. I’m fine if they admit their belief is just a faith. That’s a different story, and that ultimately is the nail to the coffin to their argument. You absolutely do not need faith when you have definitive proof of something. When you have proof of something, you just present it."}

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279311 发表于 2021-08-05 04:39:01 Let me try to explain it a different way. Two claims are being made:\n\n1) God exists.\n2) God doesn’t exist.\n\nYou would think you must select one, but you don’t have to. You can reject both claims based on lack of information. I’ll give you another example:\n\n1. Living beings (aliens) exist elsewhere in the universe.\n2. No they don’t exist. \n\nAgain, you are not forced to select one over the other. You can reject both based on lack of available information. What’s interesting is that when you reject both, you actually live your life as if #1 is false. That’s just some sort of “defect” in life. There’s not a way around it that I am aware of. For example, I am an “agnostic atheist,” but I live my life as if there were no god or gods or even aliens, although I am aware I could be mistaken. You can say my disagreement is with people who say they have definitive proof that claim #1 is real when they really don’t. I’m fine if they admit their belief is just a faith. That’s a different story, and that ultimately is the nail to the coffin to their argument. You absolutely do not need faith when you have definitive proof of something. When you have proof of something, you just present it.

","text":"No. That is not how it works. You lost the debate. You can “Make it up as you go along all you like,” but your nonsense is just getting silly now. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel good. Hell is real. Abominations as yourself will be consumed from within and gone up as a smoke forever gone and erased from LIFE and no one will even remember your existence.","replyToPid":438811}

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1047332 发表于 2021-08-05 06:42:52 No. That is not how it works. You lost the debate. You can “Make it up as you go along all you like,” but your nonsense is just getting silly now. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel good. Hell is real. Abominations as yourself will be consumed from within and gone up as a smoke forever gone and erased from LIFE and no one will even remember your existence.

","text":"Do you even care if your beliefs are true? This question is about honesty and having the desire to ensure your beliefs are as accurate as they can possibly be. If someone proves you wrong in the future, then so be it. But right now, both claims #1 and #2 cannot be met.\n\nWhat’s funny is that if there is indeed a god, then claim #1 should be able to be proven just like we can prove anything else in this world. Yet we live in a world where god is absent. He’s not part of our reality. Oh, but he works in mysterious ways, right? Sure.","replyToPid":438814}

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1248278 发表于 2021-08-03 19:41:23 No it’s not. It may be a trial run but it’s not the mark. Source: Revelations

","text":"I think so too. But it is clearly a bio weapon so don’t get it.","replyToPid":438654}

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1290556 发表于 2021-08-05 18:06:36 I think so too. But it is clearly a bio weapon so don’t get it.

","text":"So how many vaccines have we had that turned out to be bioweapons?","replyToPid":438912}

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279311 发表于 2021-08-05 15:43:53 Do you even care if your beliefs are true? This question is about honesty and having the desire to ensure your beliefs are as accurate as they can possibly be. If someone proves you wrong in the future, then so be it. But right now, both claims #1 and #2 cannot be met.\n\nWhat’s funny is that if there is indeed a god, then claim #1 should be able to be proven just like we can prove anything else in this world. Yet we live in a world where god is absent. He’s not part of our reality. Oh, but he works in mysterious ways, right? Sure.

","text":"You have ‘faith’ in things like politicians and vaccines. I have ‘faith’ in the God of Abraham. Other people have ‘faith’ in Ancient Astronaut theory and still others have faith in their own cultural god.\n\nWhat you propose to argue cannot yield any answers because ‘faith’ is that which is an idea, conjecture, assumption, synchronicity, and or personal self-revelation or even circumstantial evidence by spirit by logic or by profound philosophy.\n\nBecause of ‘free will’ you can believe in nonsense if that is what you wish for yourself. Reality does not change, because a majority believes the same false premise.\n\nA=A. Always.\n\nYou do not know God and God will not reveal himself to a heathen. It is your responsibility to first ‘seek’ with a circumcised heart in truth and betterment.\n\nIt is all fun and games to mock God until your time comes, and it will come, as it does for all of us.\n\nWe are done here. There is nothing more to discuss on this topic as it is rooted in a ‘strawmans’ idea to prove either or neither when the definition details that it is unprovable to anyone who willfully denies and has a lying mischievous double-speaking tongue.\n\nEvery soul created does know ‘instinctively’ of his existence. Only ‘His’ faithful hear his voice and follow his ways to the best of their individual abilities.\n\nSo do not worry yourself about what the faithful believe. It is not for you to know. The pearls are not free for swine.","replyToPid":438857}