HOS and US

792671

{"text":"There has been so much talk about ‘fixing’ the HOS. I’ve heard hundreds of different complaints, so I took some time to consider how I’d do it. I hope you folks can stick with me and read this through. I’d love to hear opinions and hopefully get this idea some traction!\n\n Keeping in mind that simplicity is generally the best approach, here is my thought;\n\n750 miles in 24 hours with a 10 hour break between segments. \nNo ‘required 30 minute break’. \nNo loss of time due to waiting for/on a dock. \nNo ‘penalty’ (counts against your 750) for drives between drops and pickups (under 150 miles)\n\n At any point, you’re free to stop for as long as you’d like, be it for food, a nap, a movie, a little fishing... whatever you want  You would still have the rest of that 24 hours to complete 750 miles!\n\nOnce you have either A: driven 750 miles, or B: been ‘on duty’ for 24 hrs, you MUST take a minimum 10 hour break. \n\nThe 34 hour reset would also be dumped. It would turn into a 48 hour MINIMUM break. But that break is at the drivers discretion, you take it when YOU decide, not when some desk driver has decided you should. \n \n\nHere’s an example of one huge  advantage with my idea: Shift starts at midnight. By noon, you’ve driven 750 miles. At 10pm, you’re ‘reset’ and good to drive again. You drive 83 miles to your next pickup and you’re all set to drive another 750 more miles. And you’ve got 24 hours (until 10pm the next night) to do that. You can still sleep for 8 hours if you want, take an hour to eat, whatever. You don’t lose any drive time because you’re not restricted to 11 hours driving in a 14 hour window!  The only requirements are, no more than 750 miles under a load within any 24 hour period, unless you have taken a 10 hr break between. \n \n\nI really hope this makes sense. It certainly does to me. It would DEFINITELY let the drivers with rigs governed at 55-60 mph make decent miles so they could bring home something approaching a fair paycheck! Anyway, I’m open to questions and comments. If you like this idea, PLEASE share it around!","videos":"[]","link":"{}","pics":"[]","canComment":true,"externalShare":false}

132382

{"replyTo":"","text":"They are not log books. They are regulation books. Log books are tracking what you do, not regulatory demand. As stated, eliminate HOS rules. It would save hundreds of millions of dollars a year in lost revenue hours. The denied power given to DOT, trial lawyers, and dispatchers, would instantly give drivers the power  to make decisions based on fact, not theory.","replyToPid":0}

753923

{"replyTo":"","text":"make it law NOW!!!!","replyToPid":0}

63824

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63824 发表于 2020-08-01 17:01:04 no 34 definitely no 48hr reset. it's painful it is when you run out your 70 and have to sit in your truck in some desert or someplace if you  are not home.

","text":"not to mention run out 70 three hrs away from home then it's all screwed up","replyToPid":391639}

758212

{"replyTo":"","text":"Heck . Just don’t have a reset and drive till u get home. Do away with the log books and the elog all together ","replyToPid":0}

162871

{"replyTo":"","text":"just have America adopt the Canadian HOS laws, driving would be great again","replyToPid":0}

63824

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792671 发表于 2020-08-01 17:29:20 No, you’re missing the point 😂 The clock starts, you then have 24 hrs to drive 750 miles. If you did 750 miles in 10 minutes, then you take a 10 hr break. Then the 24 hr clock restarts. It’s NOT a ‘24 hr shift’, it’s a 24 time period.

","text":"ok I misunderstood, that's great","replyToPid":391642}

792671

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909150 发表于 2020-08-01 16:01:25 All sounds fantastic other then starting at midnight👀

","text":"That was an example, I used midnight because it’s a good visual to calculate from. Start time is whenever you pick up your load! 🙂","replyToPid":391629}

63824

{"replyTo":"","text":"no 34 definitely no 48hr reset. it's painful it is when you run out your 70 and have to sit in your truck in some desert or someplace if you  are not home.","replyToPid":0}

909150

{"replyTo":"","text":"All sounds fantastic other then starting at midnight👀","replyToPid":0}

63824

{"replyToPid":0,"replyTo":"","text":"1-12pm +10hr+10p-12am\n750ml.      0ml       130ml\n\n=24hr &\n880 mls"}

63824

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63824 发表于 2020-08-01 16:40:59 1-12pm +10hr+10p-12am\n750ml.      0ml       130ml\n\n=24hr &\n880 mls

","text":"you are over 750mls in 24hr like that but I like it anyway","replyToPid":391636}

792671

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63824 发表于 2020-08-01 16:45:07 you are over 750mls in 24hr like that but I like it anyway

","text":"No, you’re missing the point 😂 The clock starts, you then have 24 hrs to drive 750 miles. If you did 750 miles in 10 minutes, then you take a 10 hr break. Then the 24 hr clock restarts. It’s NOT a ‘24 hr shift’, it’s a 24 time period. ","replyToPid":391637}

792671

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63824 发表于 2020-08-01 17:01:04 no 34 definitely no 48hr reset. it's painful it is when you run out your 70 and have to sit in your truck in some desert or someplace if you  are not home.

","text":"The bonus behind that is the part where it’s the DRIVERS choice as to when to take the break. It’s not based on any 70/80 hour schedule. So, you can grab that break when you’re close to home!","replyToPid":391639}